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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 19, 2022 0:33:35 GMT 10
Hedwig's Killer, I believe you were telling you the truth about Wood telling you to play an idol, can you give me any insight on what the fuck was going on there. Did you and Wood have a connection going back to the DP? He and I had reached 100 points [PETER I WILL SAY NO MORE THAN THAT], so I was putting a lot of faith in him. So when he lied to me there, I was so confused.
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May 19, 2022 9:29:42 GMT 10
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 19, 2022 9:29:42 GMT 10
I dont think I lied to you all game, save for "by omission" as everyone does with some things.
Id been talking to Wood all day, we'd been planning the future, we were talking about the tight groups we had with Lily, with Yax, with you and Tonks, and how we needed to keep high vis people around. He had been leaking info to me, includong you telling him about the 'deal' I made with you. I thought we were getting rather close.
Then like an hour before TC he starts saying some vaguely ominous things like 'I hope you respect the leap of faith I took' which I assumed he meant by giving me info? So I say that it was ominous vibes and hes like "Ominous? idk if I would say that. There's a degree of obfuscation that has to happen, so unless you have an idol youre going"
To me this was literally out of nowhere, as we had been talking about our plans for future rounds for almost an hour at that point? Which is what kicked off that whole night.
Its genuinely one of the most confusing interactions Ive ever experienced.
Same with you Malfoy, why were you so hellbent on playing the facade like you were double checking with Wood? And during TC pretending like you might vote against Wood?
Honestly I thought it was pathetic. by both of you. It was so unnecessary and messy and sloppy I dont think I vote for either of you. Lying for lies sake, targeting me against your own best interests... this entire game was random nonsense at best.
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 19, 2022 10:07:56 GMT 10
Okay Wood and I had a fully open and honest dialouge. I never lied to him and I never lied to Barty.
As I said, we had 100 points so I thought we were locked in.
He never said he wanted to work with you. If he did, I would have gone with that plan. I liked Tonks (although we probably couldn't save her at her MC at that point) and I believed your offer. But for me it sort of came out of the blue. Like you and I danced around each other so much for such a long time, so it seemed really out of the blue that you would propose that. I thought that you proposed it because of Tonks. I had no idea about your super secret alliance with Wood. And I had no reason to suspect it existed because he didn't tell me about it and I thought we were being open and clear with each other about everything.
The work had already been put in for your boot by the time you offered that deal. I had it all set with protection against an idol. It was actually going to be a 2-2-2 but then you offered me that deal and I realised you were actually going to vote for Black, so we had to switch it to a 3-1. But as I said, if Wood had just said to me, actually I want to keep HK around, I'd have been like fine, lets just do Black here and move on. But he never said that.
So when I get your message that you've been filled in on the plan, I am legit shocked. Like why has Wood told you this. I ask him about it and he doubles down. He says he did not tell you. I was pretty sure he was lying to me and I confirmed it in the days after, although he never admitted that he lied to me there. The absurd thing was even then, I was like, you need to tell me your plans so I can support then. Even if he'd just said then that he wanted you to stay, we could have flipped out votes to Black. It was so fucking bizarre.
Then Lily posts a message in our HKK group chat where we were making the plans that was meant for a 1 on 1 with you (telling you that Wood was telling her to vote for you) the intent of such being that she hoped you'd not idol her out. But it went in the group chat and on first read looked like it was a message to me telling me that Wood was targeting me.
No one explained themselves so I went live at tribal. And I did change my vote, but I must have been too late. You can check that after the game if you like. But I did change it. So MC was not an act.
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May 19, 2022 11:00:26 GMT 10
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 19, 2022 11:00:26 GMT 10
And as I said above, I needed to check with Wood because I had no idea why he told you that or if you were perhaps playing a masterful game of deception trying to get me to fess up so you know whether to play an idol or not.
And then he swore he didn’t tell you. So what else was I supposed to do. Trust my partner who I had 100 points with or you who had had only earlier that day decided I was worthy of being aligned with you.
I agree with you about wood, but I don’t know what you think I did that justifies the pathetic tag. I lied to you yes, but it was on account of a prior strategy to protect against a potential idol.
I know you said you didn’t have it/didn’t want it etc. but that was your whole thing. Looking completely disinterested and like you are succeeding in spite of yourself while clearly being a top tier player
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May 19, 2022 12:17:47 GMT 10
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 19, 2022 12:17:47 GMT 10
I assumed Moody was the vote for Black, and you with 'checking with Wood' and literally everything that night, including at MC were doing all that theater as a desperate attempt to stop me playing an idol (which I never had, everything I ever said about the idol was 100% true)
Wood told me well in advance about the 2-2-2 But I assumed I was the decoy in case Black had an idol, and I was just ok with that. Wasn't going to make a fuss, someones gotta be insurance and it wasnt like I wanted to go against any of you. I told Black that it was going to be him but that I didnt want that (which was true, id have preferred Moody) and told him that the best thing he could do would be to try and target me. Thats how much confidence I was putting in you three and how little I wanted to 'target' any of you, even as a decoy.
As far as I was concerned, Tonks and I were completely legit about working with you since you were another big visible person, and of one of us went we all did (golly gee look what happened) And you and I made up after figuring out the Igor stuff.
We were square, I held no bad blood to you or anyone in this game. Its too stupid to hold grudges. My 'deal' i sent you was just... reassurrance of how much I wanted to confirm my commitment after Id been sorta inactive for a couple days. reassurring you (since Black was targeting you and Lily and I were 'playing along' supposedly) that it not only made absolutely no sense for me to target you, but vice versa.
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 19, 2022 12:28:55 GMT 10
Maybe Wood held a grudge against me since I initially targeted him over Kingsley on DP, but that was only because the guy sent me all of one message while Kingsley and I had 2 pages. And we talked about that, and it became clear that he was cool and, and at a point I wanted to work with you (lucius) anyway? so it made sense to work with them.
Lily and Wood and I talked about keeping each other safe to survive DP. I told Lily multiple times that my priority was to keep her, Crouch and myself safe through that process, and Wood/Yaxley if we could. I don't know why she never really bought in, I thought she was just the same kind of non committal talker as Crouch. Maybe nobody trusted me all game because I hate group chats and avoid making them?
As far as I was concerned, everyone in this entire game was a wishy washy non committal mess who never wanted to do or say anything that could possibly ever make it back to anyone else. I honestly don't care about a single person in the game, and my jury question is just going to be "Make me care" to whomever two are sitting there. I don't care about gameplay or character or how much I liked them. I'm just going to put it on whoever's left to help me leave this game with any feeling other than complete apathy.
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 19, 2022 13:13:14 GMT 10
To confirm, none of that was theater. I think that is understood now, yeah?
I wasn't super worried about the idol by the time you sent that message, we had set up the 3-1 with Moody on Black and I felt like you were voting Black as well, so I was comfortable with the risk.
People's reaction to you was strange. Frankly, half the cast was terrified of you and the other half were super weary. I was in the weary camp. I think it was the cool, calm, collected and confident position you always put forward combined with the Rep that thay just gave of this eerie sense of impending dread.
But I can see what happened here. For some fucking reason Wood was working you up as a side ally and never bothered to fill me in on it. Even though we shared everything else. The fact is, I would have been open to any plan that he had, as long as it didn't involve targeting Barty (or by extension Lily). And given Lily and Wood were tight since day 1, that was a very natural 4 person alliance. When we got to merge, I actually discussed with Wood that I'd like to potentially replace Dickie and Yax (in our planned final 6) with you and Tonks. He sort of mentioned an interest in that but it went no further. The 6 came from the the tight three I had with Yax and Crouch at MM. I was thinking of switching them out fo you and Tonks, mainly because I could not stand Dickie at all.
If Wood had just told me that he had strong connection with you I would have jumped at the chance to put that 6 together which I think would have held together to the end.
I would very much like to see Barty win. Everyone else is going to need to really impress me to get the W.
Cicling back on Wood, I think that he just played an honest game for 2.5 weeks and then tried a sneaky move and it blew up in his face. Obviously he wanted to save you with the idol but not reveal to me that he was with you (because was would still vote for you), which I just don't understand because you were actually wanting to work with me so why try and keep us apart? He actually got hit by it quite a lot I think. Being caught in the lie and facing my interogation about the betrayal. The betrayal being flat out lying to me. To rebuild trust he actually transferred me his idol and then I transferred in back. But he was otherwise borderline inactive those two days so I think he might have mentally checked out a bit after that.
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 19, 2022 13:18:54 GMT 10
Yeah, I rescind my 'pathetic' label of your actions. But genuinely nothing made sense, whatsoever. It seemed like everyone was equal parts not playing and overplaying all the time.
So what, me not acting like a maniac got me targeted? Being calm is a downside? Seriously fuck these people lol. Also Weary meaning tired? or Wary?
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 19, 2022 13:23:54 GMT 10
Yes 'Wary'. And pretty much lol.
Thank you for the recission.
And I agree everyone was so wishy washy about everything all the time. No one would say a name, which was the worst because there was such little time between immunities and MC.
Where did you sent you vast collection of wands? My guess would be Black? Where I sent my three (Mine, Karkaroff, Pyrites) should be fairly obvious I expect.
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Post by Nymphadora Tonks on May 19, 2022 14:28:08 GMT 10
Wow… What a mess. I always felt that it was always Crouch and Lily that were the actual big threats, not the three of us. I won’t be surprised at all to see them march at the end with who we’ve got left in the game.
I sent all of my wands to Fleur. I’m rooting for her hard!
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May 19, 2022 15:19:51 GMT 10
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 19, 2022 15:19:51 GMT 10
Wow… What a mess. I always felt that it was always Crouch and Lily that were the actual big threats, not the three of us. I won’t be surprised at all to see them march at the end with who we’ve got left in the game. I sent all of my wands to Fleur. I’m rooting for her hard! Who’s wands did you have? Canary? Dung?
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 19, 2022 15:25:58 GMT 10
Also idk, i think Barty will join us sooner than later. Wood will play his idol tonight I expect. If the minows are smart the next two boots will be fleur and Barty.
I kind of want dickie to get to the end but only if I can convince everyone who comes in here not to vote for him 😉
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 19, 2022 15:32:31 GMT 10
I got Carrow, Travers and LeStrange. Sent all of them to Yax, he waas probably who I felt closest to on Daily Prophet after we sorted out how your idol play/karkaroff's messiness was affecting things.
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 19, 2022 15:34:07 GMT 10
I should've sent them to Black but I was reeling from that MC and didn't want to think about anyone involved.
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 19, 2022 15:37:04 GMT 10
I got Carrow, Travers and LeStrange. Sent all of them to Yax, he waas probably who I felt closest to on Daily Prophet after we sorted out how your idol play/karkaroff's messiness was affecting things. It’s funny how between us you and I had every death eaters wand
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 19, 2022 15:41:00 GMT 10
I know you said you didn’t have it/didn’t want it etc. but that was your whole thing. Looking completely disinterested and like you are succeeding in spite of yourself while clearly being a top tier player Nah, this is all me. I genuinely hate idols and interacting with items.
Also what's this 'looking like' business, I was absolutely succeeding despite being disinterested.
Legitimately, what did I do that was 'top tier player' worthy? Is it just sounding smart? is that the trick? Is discussing philosophy and metaphysics like... a clear sign of strategic acumen?
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 19, 2022 16:11:07 GMT 10
Honestly I think it was just that you were doing SOMETHING compared with most others
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 19, 2022 16:12:38 GMT 10
Honestly I think it was just that you were doing SOMETHING compared with most others And calm confidence. I was doing SOMETHING as well. My approach was to do it in the most chaotic and messy way possible
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 19, 2022 18:22:11 GMT 10
Honestly I think it was just that you were doing SOMETHING compared with most others I would love to know what that something was lol. As far as Im concerned I did bugger all for 2 weeks.
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 19, 2022 21:45:17 GMT 10
I presume this was the swap idol yeah or is it a merge idol?
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