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Post by Peter Pettigrew on May 29, 2022 12:41:59 GMT 10
Accio Wizengamot Judge Number Three:
![](https://i.imgur.com/n5s3URZ.png) I now invite Lucius Malfoy to address the finalists.
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 29, 2022 21:38:31 GMT 10
My fellow Deatheaters. I suppose I shouldn't be too bothered that the two of you made it to the end. After all, the two of you were two of my earliest allies in the game. And at the Manor I was in no less than 4 group chats with each of you with only 2 of those crossing over. Thinking on it this last week or so, I do feel that my downfall in this game was not creating nearly enough group chats. But for that, I would have had this game in the bag. Without further ado, I wish to congratulate you both for reaching this point. This has been an incredibly challenging and difficult ORG to play due to the twists and turns, the switches and swaps, but most of all, due to the calibre of players that were cast. Almost every single player here brought their all. To be standing here at the end, you should both be very proud of yourselves. I want to say that I am coming into this undecided (as is, I believe, a large proportion of the Wizengamot). Personally, I have been undecided since Barty went at 4. He was my boy and I’d been stumping for him since I got booted and then Yax had to go and take him out and since then I have been uncertain. I respect the games that both of you have played. They are both great games. Yax, you played the upper middle so well, hung in the background and then emerged as a power player at the end. Essentially a text book winning survivor game. Reggy, you have been an underdog since day 1 where you lost your two closest allies within minutes of each other, and while there is a factor of skating through the mid-merge as everyone tries to build a resume, the fact you made it to that point and your role in the end game cannot be diminished. Yax, there are few things in your novel that I want to correct, but firstly I need to commend you on keeping up the dumb deatheater shtick the ENTIRE game. No matter the conversation, no matter the intent, no matter the time pressure, you still put the time in to keeping the form of prose true to character. Fleur did this as well and she was perhaps that one bit more impressive (by including all those French accents as well), but taking nothing away from you, it was incredible by you. Kudos for that. Generally, I like most of what both of you said about me in your opening statements, after all I am somewhat of an egomaniac; no surprise I expect given I did choose Lucius Malfoy as my rep. I enjoyed both the numerous mentions in Yax's novel as well as the short sharp compliments in Reggy's post. Still it should be no surprise that my questions seek even more of a deep dive on our relationships. Yax, a lot of your reads at what happened at the Manor are incorrect. I was always 100% loyal to Barty first and you second. Of course, there was a core within the sacred 5, it was me, you and Barty. The only three that knew about my idol. I do not know why you thought that that you were not in my core given we had a day 1 alliance and I brought you into S5. And you will note I am sure that I said my idol, and I think this is where I signed the death warrant of our relationship. I found that idol day 1. You may recall that you sent me your parchment that morning of the first owls and then went offline. I then spent the day swapping parchments with 3 other people (Travers, Pyrites and Igor) (I ended up with 5 pieces (2 doubles)) until I finally got the final piece from Black around 6 pm. Took me around 2 hours to crack the password and then I went to Barty and asked him to do Puffs with me for 7 hours. We finished at 3 am. We brought you in on the later idol search the next day or the one after and I decided to tell you I got the idol from that as Barty and I were 100% loyal to you. I can see however, that from your POV you may have felt I wasted an idol to which you had some claim (more on that below) and sadly, I don't think I could have ever told you the truth about how I got it to clear that up as that would have been just as bad. A real Catch 22. On the Pyrites vote, it was the right call. And had you been online, we could have got the numbers for Rudy without the idol as Igor was willing to vote Rudy if we had the numbers (just not on a tie). HK has confessed to me now (post game) what I always suspected, that he and Rudy were extremely tight and Rudy was leaking him everything about the S5 as was HK about MC. If we didn't swap that night and Pyrites went, you me and Barty were stuffed unless Igor swung over to us but he too was super tight with HK, so I expect their target would have been you or Barty. S5 was a lie. MC was a lie. I could see that. What was true were my relationships with Barty and you (and of course crazy old Igor who spilled me all the beans), so my priority was keeping us all safe. So in fact, I actually did use the idol for the three of us. It was not last minute (it started 3 hours before MC) and it was not pointless. I was ready to read you the riot act on this reading the first chapters of your novel and describing my actions in this manner. But then half way through the second chapter, you did acknowledge the above as what might have occurred? Yet it seems, you still never trusted me like I trusted you when we joined back up? And for the record Wood did transfer me his idol and I transferred in back (just before tribal, not after as I said was our deal). It was a way of showing each other trust again after what had happened. We had reached 100 points on the merge, for better or worse, so I am sure you can understand the connection I had with him given your note about you and Dickie. Reggy, I am glad you enjoyed our rivalry. I wonder did you enjoy our connection and our friendship, as you did not mention it? We had an odd relationship to be sure. Made even odder by me idoling Rudy and then being swapped with you. But strangely, other than Barty and Wood, you were the person I was most honest with for almost all of the game (Yax didn't give me much post merge). Not about my moves specifically, but perhaps my feelings and my general approach. So my questions to the two of you are the same: - When were we actually aligned in your eyes and why?
- When did that alliance end in your eyes and why?
- And finally, the one thing I still do not have the answer to, which might get someone a bonus point, who the fuck voted for me in the Traver's boot?
Again fantastic effort by both of you. I am really happy it’s the two of you here. My ideal final 2 was Barty and I. But if it couldn't be that, frankly, I'm glad it’s the two of you, because so much of my game was intertwined with both of yours, and that makes me feel really special inside. After all, I am a bit of an egomainac after all. Your pal, Lucy.
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Post by Regulus Black on May 29, 2022 22:36:44 GMT 10
Thanks Lucius! I feel like this game revolved around you. You were the biggest character and both Yaxley and my opening speeches probably mention you more frequently than anyone else for these reasons. I've just answered some of this in Tonks thread, but will repeat bits to address your questions. If you read Tonks' thread you will again be frequently mentioned. And I've also covered some more things relating to you, which I'm not going to repost here My game had one consistent thread - form relationship, lose relationship, repeat. As you've mentioned, before the first vote, my partner Figg and the player I vibed with the most on day 1- Carrow both exited. Put yourself in that headspace for a second. I then doubled down and focused on consolidating my position. It was clear that you were going to be the pivotal player from early on. You were very active, forward with messages and yes, rather charming. The goal at that point was to get in good with you, given your central positioning. This was approached on two fronts- investing in my relationship with you and then looking to erode your ties with others. At the first council, I placed the vote against you. You were still a key ally though. By this point, I'd sensed that you were the kind of player who wanted to be in the know on everything. The idea that there was someone who was out to get you, despite doing all you were doing to build early bonds would hopefully result in drawing you in- feeling like you were closer to me. I'd done the groundwork first though. In doing so, did all I could to give you no reason to doubt me. Earlier, I'd played up how much I prioritised my relationship with you after losing both Carrow and Figg. I feel like I laid the foundations for you rule me out as having been the one who placed that vote. Therefore, by extension, you would distrust others more. Not only that, but I was a sounding board for you to reveal your suspicions about who he felt had voted for him. Which I would invariably agree with and low-key fuel those doubts and build some paranoia. So I was able to get into your head in that way. I know it's kind of cruel, but as you are still thinking about it and you're saying that you were most honest with me after Barty and Wood, I think it's fair to say that it worked? I feel like this probably ended up factoring into the HK boot? And potentially even the Lestrange boot? To answer your questions specifically, I considered you as my ally from very early on. It would have been from day 1 or 2. I was drawn to you as I could sense that you'd be a strong player. The experience wouldn't have been the same without you. Truly. Our connection and yes, friendship brought a lot of richness to this game. You might know by now, but I was in quite close with Fleur at the swap. Fleur and I were in the middle, essentially. So for all those rounds when you kept saying that you were done- I knew that you were going to be sticking around. And I did even push the vote off you and onto Pyrites when Diggle wanted you out. I knew that you and Pyrites were trying to push me out, but I wanted to keep you around if possible. I saw us as having a bit of Kelley & Dave from S38- they weren't on the same page, as outsiders - 2 returnees on a new player Side. This ended up making them appear less threatening, which allowed them both to stick around until the merge. I felt like this strategy could be applied perfectly to you and I. The thinking being that if we presented as close- that would give big incentive for things to roll down original Side lines. Which wouldn't have worked out well at all for me. It’s hard to tell if this made a difference or not, but Mundungus left first, so I'm claiming that it contributed to that outcome. But yes, our alliance never really ended. I was annoyed with Lestrange leaving though. Which made me a bit wary of you, but I got over that. As tbh, that council actually worked out in my favour in the end. It's so funny how much of an impact a simple vote can have. I didn't tell anyone about it until now. And it's made for a fun reveal, which I'm glad I was able to illuminate for you ![:)](http://images.proboards.com/new/smiley.png) Lots of love, Reg
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 29, 2022 23:14:13 GMT 10
Thanks for that Reggy. Great explanation.
Just one thing I want to clarify: my understanding from the jury is that in my boot the original split was Deatheaters voting Wood and Order voting me and on the revote you switched your vote to me and Dickie switched to Wood, resulting in me still going home. Did you switch to me and if so why?
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Post by Regulus Black on May 29, 2022 23:45:16 GMT 10
Yes, I did switch to you. The thinking behind that was essentially that you had more ammo which could be used against me at that point. I could've very easily seen you going back to Crouch, Lily and others to say that I told you about the split etc. Which might have hurt my longevity- maybe I leave instead of Fleur in that case? I told you about it because I wanted you to lock in on what was happening, to kind of try and contain you for the moment and also partially because I wanted to send you out seeing that I was open with you. I also wanted to have more opportunities to take out some of the emerging big players at that point. I sensed that you'd probably passed the point of no return by 9 whereby you would continue to be a vote magnet. This would have been good for someone like Crouch, but for me- who had to get rid of more players, including Crouch himself, I felt like removing you there gave me enough time to make the moves needed to get to the end
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 29, 2022 23:46:55 GMT 10
Okay thanks Reggy. Best of luck with the rest of FMC. Congrats again for getting here.
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Post by Corban Yaxley on May 30, 2022 5:24:47 GMT 10
Hullo Lucius. I 'ppreciate the correction on the Manor there, mate. To be honest, the beginnin' o' this game was real rough for me on a personal level. I'd blocked off a bit o' time work-wise, havin' planned on doin' part-time stuff while I was in this game. But unfortunately, right as the game started, I was hit with an unexpected bit 'o extra stuff that left me buried for large chunks o' time and I was real close to just puttin' a resignation in durin' the manor because I was so buried in life stuff too. I reckon it was that trio chat with you n' Barty that kept me thinkin' I had a chance in it at all. Knowin' that Barty was you're #1 is int'restin', because you both did a damn good job o' hidin' it. I reckon my read that I was on the outside o' the Sacred 5 is still more or less correct though, given you're saying Black n' Lestrange were extremely close to each other. Just means I was a bit off 'bout where you stood with 'em, is all. Fair 'nough on thinkin' we were never gunna be best mates after that though; I always felt like you were one step away from me. Even readin' back my own confessional at the time, I spotted this gem, forgive me for not keepin' my tone nat'ral in there: I wrote this the day after Alecto went, n' it was echoin' in my head for rounds after. So while you did a good job o' keepin' the idol secret, s'not like I didn't know how you leaned 'tween the two 'o us. I reckon arguin' 'bout the idol play is pointless now, goin' back in time is too tricky. I can see if you're assumin' HK n' Lestrange are super-close that both of the group chats are lies, it makes a bit more sense, to be sure. But by your own admission, you didn't know 'bout that 'til two weeks later, in the Wizengamot. Did you have any evidence o' it at the time? I'd have listened to it, but from my point o' view it was hard to shake the feelin' that you were just gunna keep me as a number at that point, n' given you're sayin' Barty was higher priority I reckon I was righ', I just didn't know who that number was for. Given Lestrange picked Barty to be in the S5 to begin with, were you not worried 'bout him also bein' super close with Lestrange? I 'ppreciate the sayin' I was a textbook survivor winner. I've never watched the show n' I haven't played too many o' these, so I'll have to take your word for it? I just did the best I could, but gettin' some validation I didn't play too awful is nice. Okay, I guess I should actually answer your questions here. I'd say from my point o' view, we were closely aligned in the manor phase, startin' from even day 1. I reckoned you had better friends than me, but due to my rough start, I didn't think I'd be makin' any better friends than you n' Barty. Post-manor, you were still a friend in that we'd work together if it made sense? But I expected I'd be lower priority for you after me obviously not likin' the idol play and you suddenly havin' a bunch o' new friends. I knew after bein' identified as such a tight trio in the manor, at some point the trio of us would need to be broken, n' I guessed if it was up to you, you'd keep Barty over me? So I viewed our workin' together in the merge as an extremely limited thing. Obviously I wasn't too subtle 'bout that, with you or others neither. Merge. I reckoned if you popped over to work with us in the Daily Prophet I'd make a choice on how we moved forward based on the circumstance at the time? But once we hit merge, I had to deal with this set o' information: - You had enough solid connections that you didn't get taken out 'til you decided you wanted to switch sides,
- You then switched sides,
- By either burning a bunch o' bridges or by pretendin' to burn a bunch o' bridges.
Intentionally makin' a swap work n' recoverin' makes you look too good. If you actually burned those bridges I'd need to take advantage o' that to make sure I outlast you n' if you faked burnin' those bridges to keep extra advantages from your mates, then you weren't actually workin' with us anyways. Well, I'd theorized Igor did this to do 'xactly what Black's describin' to you, but seein' that Black already described this I reckon goin' through all the same logic's a bit o' a waste. Cheers mate, thanks for all o' your time. We may have wound up on diff'rent pages for a lot o' this game, but I really enjoyed the energy you brought to the game, even if it frequently stressed me out too. Yaxley.
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 30, 2022 9:23:58 GMT 10
Thanks for all that Yax.
To confirm, I had plenty of reasons to suspect HK and Rudy were close most of all the stuff HK said to me right before tribal combined with everything Igor said from around 5 pm that day. I feel like, after you returned, you didn’t go back and read our group thread with Barty or the one I created with Pyrites before the vote. All the information was there.
And I agree our one on one was fairly light on once we made our trio but that’s because I was basically just saying everything of note in our trio chat. I did have a continued one on one chat with Barty but that was mostly us discussing what we should tell you and the answer was always, everything. I guess I didn’t really see you at that stage as someone to discuss strategy with one on one. But instead saw you as a loyal partner who, at that stage, didn’t have a lot of time to engage.
On Sacred 5 I told Barty about it before it even happened and told him I was not picking him as my person as I didn’t want to give away how tight we were. And then Rudy dragged his feet and I just got the confirmation from Barty anyway and told black that he was in but that Barty would revert through Rudy. So yeah I was all in with Barty before we even had the idol, it just sealed the deal. I though I had you for the vote at 9, but then Barty even told me that you were worried you’d be seen as my goats.
I guess your not entirely wrong in where you stood with me, but I had you locked in for at least my final 5 and my view is that at final 5 anything can happen. So you were part of my end game for sure.
I am close to deciding my vote but I want you to clarify one party of your game that I feel is lacking. Your reads on people and the situations seem to be a little off. As per all of the above and also as another example, I sent lily all the idol Clues day 1 (which is how wood got the idol).
And no one is perfect of course, I completely misread you and how you felt after all. It seems I just projected you feeling comfortable because I was loyal to you but didn’t actually realize that.
Can you give me an example of both your best read in this game and your worst?
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Post by Corban Yaxley on May 30, 2022 11:55:50 GMT 10
I'd say my relationship with you winds up as both my best and worst read? You're claiming here I had basically no idea 'bout how in deep you were with half o' the game. Bein' that tight with Barty, keepin' me in the dark as bein' that much less in your eyes than him, having a bunch of evidence 'bout a Lestrange HK pair that you never shared (I just went back and read the chat, all you say is Pyrites and Igor want Lestrange), havin' the idol... I mean, I feel like that many secrets is more than enough reason for me to not trust you at all and want to get you out, rather than work with you? But at the end o' the day, you wanted to keep me despite all that? Never would have believed it durin' the game.
But at the same time... Within a couple o' rounds together I knew you'd be incredibly dangerous and incredibly targeted, and if I stuck with you I'd either die or be seen as your ignorant minion the whole way through. I didn't know exactly all o' your schemes and strategies but I knew enough to know I needed to kill you. Given I'm already fielding a bunch o' accusations 'bout takin' the easy way out, I reckon your proposed final five guarantees my loss no matter if I'm in the F2 or not! And I worked hard to make sure I was ready to jump on the opportunity of goin' for you, no matter how many extra schemes or secrets you had. You just showin' how many additional plans you had in the manor alone just shows that choice was even more correct for me.
Cheers mate, sorry but I'll definitely not have a chance to respond here again so I hope that's enough for you.
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Post by Corban Yaxley on May 30, 2022 11:59:38 GMT 10
Oh, I lied, my best read of the game was callin' Peter out in my confessional in advance that the last challenge was gunna be wand based before even starting it, and havin' already listed how I thought the wands went through the game. That felt incredibly clever.
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 30, 2022 12:12:41 GMT 10
Thanks Yax. I'm satisfied with the answers you have provided. And I know that you must be making extra time in your day for this as we are passed your usual RL deadline.
Again, well done to both of you. You both played incredible strong and subtle games. I struggle with subtle as I feel the need to be in control. So I really respect the games that both of you played.
I wish you both the best of luck for the vote tonight. Either of you will be deserving winners of this incredible ORG.
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Post by Regulus Black on May 30, 2022 19:25:50 GMT 10
Thanks Lucius - big respect to you. You have been a very classy juror and it's been fun to have the chance to reconnect. The game didn't feel the same without your presence
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