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Post by Nymphadora Tonks on May 29, 2022 22:48:30 GMT 10
Fleur Delacour if you have the time can you explain to me your perspective of the Pyrites vote? I’m just curious as to what truly happened because its clear there was more to it than what I thought, and I’m wondering how impactful Black was to that vote ![:)](http://images.proboards.com/new/smiley.png)
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Post by Fleur Delacour on May 29, 2022 23:14:13 GMT 10
Fleur Delacour if you have the time can you explain to me your perspective of the Pyrites vote? I’m just curious as to what truly happened because its clear there was more to it than what I thought, and I’m wondering how impactful Black was to that vote ![:)](http://images.proboards.com/new/smiley.png) So basicálly that's one example of me t rying tò 'ave my càke and éat it too ![:lol](https://i.imgur.com/X4ixXao.gif) I tòld monsieur Black that I would be willing tò vote eithér monsieur Malfoy or Pyrites as long as I and 'im a re on the same pàge and we discússed both options. I 'ave tò say though that 'e always seemed móre interésted in voting out Pyrites so what 'e said abôut actúally wanting tò keep monsieur Malfoy at that pòint chécks out at léast in thiz régard. The t ruth is that 'e p robably 'ad a bettér undérstanding of what 'e wantéd than I did becàuse I did end up changing my vote. I would 'ave switched back tò Pyrites on the revote though bût it was p robably bettér fór me that it didn't get that fár
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Post by Nymphadora Tonks on May 29, 2022 23:20:19 GMT 10
Fleur Delacour if you have the time can you explain to me your perspective of the Pyrites vote? I’m just curious as to what truly happened because its clear there was more to it than what I thought, and I’m wondering how impactful Black was to that vote ![:)](http://images.proboards.com/new/smiley.png) So basicálly that's one example of me t rying tò 'ave my càke and éat it too ![:lol](https://i.imgur.com/X4ixXao.gif) I tòld monsieur Black that I would be willing tò vote eithér monsieur Malfoy or Pyrites as long as I and 'im a re on the same pàge and we discússed both options. I 'ave tò say though that 'e always seemed móre interésted in voting out Pyrites so what 'e said abôut actúally wanting tò keep monsieur Malfoy at that pòint chécks out at léast in thiz régard. The t ruth is that 'e p robably 'ad a bettér undérstanding of what 'e wantéd than I did becàuse I did end up changing my vote. I would 'ave switched back tò Pyrites on the revote though bût it was p robably bettér fór me that it didn't get that fár Ok this makes sense. I knew you guys were close but I never knew you were THAT close! Props to him though
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Post by Lily Potter on May 30, 2022 0:01:07 GMT 10
Making my way through FMC opening statements now.
Just an observation, why do ORG players generally feel that because they don't have a strict word limit, it means they need to write an essay detailing every little tidbit that happened in each round. They would never be saying this if it was a live speech. Not only is it a pain to read, but from a strategic persepctive it provides more opportunities for someone to say "you were wrong about this". Only put in what is actually relevant to us voting for you.
On the complete flipside, I find Regulus' opening statement to be too lacking. He talks about losing his early partners but doesn't provide specifics about what he did to develop new ones or navigate around that loss. Hopefully he'll go into much more detail in his answers
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 30, 2022 0:03:56 GMT 10
Making my way through FMC opening statements now. Just an observation, why do ORG players generally feel that because they don't have a strict word limit, it means they need to write an essay detailing every little tidbit that happened in each round. They would never be saying this if it was a live speech. Not only is it a pain to read, but from a strategic persepctive it provides more opportunities for someone to say "you were wrong about this". Only put in what is actually relevant to us voting for you. On the complete flipside, I find Regulus' opening statement to be too lacking. He talks about losing his early partners but doesn't provide specifics about what he did to develop new ones or navigate around that loss. Hopefully he'll go into much more detail in his answers Agreed his opening left a lot to be desired but he’s making up for it in this answers and perhaps that is the better approach. A short opening statement and keep your powder dry for the questions. If something doesn’t get asked/you don’t get a chance to say something, use your closing statement. I like the approach.
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Post by Fleur Delacour on May 30, 2022 0:08:01 GMT 10
Oui, je pense que monsieur Black en general veut laisser des détails aux réponses individuelles... Idéally I think it's somewhére in the middle whére you don't want tò go ovér évery détail bût you should probably give some détails whére you càn say that you didn't just shape your éntire argument around 'earing the jury qùestions, not that I feel like 'e 'as done thiz.
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 30, 2022 0:09:20 GMT 10
, why do ORG players generally feel that because they don't have a strict word limit, it means they need to write an essay detailing every little tidbit that happened in each round. They don't want to leave anything on the table, they hope to pre address questions to show they had thought about it prior, theyre nervous, its become 'expected' for bad reasons... idk. I mean I agree with you, Black's approach is always superior, but thats the why of it.
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Post by Lily Potter on May 30, 2022 0:24:10 GMT 10
Hedwig's Killer , I'm so so so so so glad you added the 2000 character limit. If either of them do not follow it, I vote that we all refuse to read their answers because Peter Pettigrew wouldn't have allowed the owl post to be sent
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Post by Lily Potter on May 30, 2022 0:40:00 GMT 10
Just a point about Regulus' answer to Fleur's question.
If Moody/I had won immunity at Final 7, Reg was 100% the split target. Diggs/Barty/myself wouldn't have hit Yaxley at F7 (in fact, I was actually a lot closer to Yaxley than I was Diggs).
Furthermore, this wasn't initially obvious because we accidentally went to a revote but RAB and Wood actually voted for DIFFERENT targets at that F7 round, so through their inability to work together (I don't blame him on his inability to get Moody onside because Moody was tight with Diggs) meant whoever wasn't immune at F6 was going home.
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Post by Lily Potter on May 30, 2022 0:59:49 GMT 10
OK reading through all of Regulus' answers so far and I think he's done reasonably well.
For me, intentionality is a big part of how much I rate someone's game. I don't care if you didn't make any big moves, but I want the smaller, more subtle moves to be intentional rather than luck based.
I think so far he's been able to explain his intentionality in the pre-merge, e.g. throwing the vote on Lucius pre-swap (which I quite respect, especially if he correctly read that Lucius is the perfect person to do that to), and getting the votes onto Pyrites post swap but that move was at F14. I've yet to see him explain how intentionality of any of his moves from F14 all the way to F4 when he decided to make it a 2-2 tie (which Barty and I both knew would be the logical move) and that's what I want to see more of because most people would agree that you don't win an ORG based off how strong your pre-merge game was.
That's not to say that I think Regulus didn't make intentional moves in the merge. I don't at all think that he accidentally stumbled his way into the F2. I think he was able to develop good social relationships to keep him out of trouble, the most obvious being ensuring Kingsley went before him at the merge vote when his name had been floating around. But I want to hear Regulus own up to these moves, I want him to explain how he intentionally weaponised his social relationships as active gameplay.
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Post by Lily Potter on May 30, 2022 1:14:24 GMT 10
Hedwig's Killer , I'm so so so so so glad you added the 2000 character limit. If either of them do not follow it, I vote that we all refuse to read their answers because Peter Pettigrew wouldn't have allowed the owl post to be sent His answer was 7017 characters
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 30, 2022 1:19:45 GMT 10
Hedwig's Killer , I'm so so so so so glad you added the 2000 character limit. If either of them do not follow it, I vote that we all refuse to read their answers because Peter Pettigrew wouldn't have allowed the owl post to be sent His answer was 7017 characters And he did exactly the opposite of what I wanted. I am extraordinarily disappointed.
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Post by Fleur Delacour on May 30, 2022 1:29:10 GMT 10
Je suis française et j'ai compris mieux les instructions que ça ![:lol](https://i.imgur.com/X4ixXao.gif)
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Post by Barty Crouch Jr on May 30, 2022 1:34:10 GMT 10
I kinda like Black's strategy here. He understands that he is not likely to get mine and Diggle's votes (nothing against RAB, just i am massive Yaxley fan) - so he is not wasting time with my and Diggle's answers (or keeping us for last). I am just wondering - is his amazing performance - another case of Kristie's FTC in 2016 season? Amazing skills at talking and ability to turn every fact to their favor?
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Post by Fleur Delacour on May 30, 2022 1:34:56 GMT 10
I 'ave tò say, I am somewhat disáppointed that 'e réally doesn't seem tò accòunt fór me advócating fór 'im. I méan, does 'e think I 'ave been just running my môuth fór the éntire game, inclúding my statemént? ![:smh](//storage.proboards.com/7252598/images/qNnigqDBRwmLStksufWc.gif)
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Post by Fleur Delacour on May 30, 2022 1:38:32 GMT 10
I am just wondering - is his amazing performance - another case of Kristie's FTC in 2016 season? Amazing skills at talking and ability to turn every fact to their favor? cònsidering that thiz is exactement what final còuncil is all abôut I wôuld say thiz is a rathér ringing éndorsment
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Post by Oliver Wood on May 30, 2022 2:36:30 GMT 10
Is it just me or is Black destroying these answers. We might have a real *SNIP* scenario here. Love his reveal that he voted for me in the Travers boot. And the strategy of it. Top tier stuff. Oliver Wood, we’re you playing the idol for black at 7 if you were immune? It was an option but not one I'd discussed with Black. When I said I intended to play it for myself, Lily and Crouch I mean that I intended to play it for myself, Lily and Crouch.
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Post by Barty Crouch Jr on May 30, 2022 2:36:57 GMT 10
I am just wondering - is his amazing performance - another case of Kristie's FTC in 2016 season? Amazing skills at talking and ability to turn every fact to their favor? cònsidering that thiz is exactement what final còuncil is all abôut I wôuld say thiz is a rathér ringing éndorsment www.veed.io/view/5f458913-0e22-4afa-b92d-1c74ada61bac
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Post by Barty Crouch Jr on May 30, 2022 2:38:23 GMT 10
damn it, i failed to post it correctly ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) the idea stays the same
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Post by Dedalus Diggle on May 30, 2022 3:17:37 GMT 10
Bloody diggle, now black's writing novels, too? He and I were mostly to the core and not too lengthy in messages so this is unexpected haha Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lily Potter Barty Crouch Jr was it really RAB's social play that got him this far? I heard that topic come up several times, but reading through messages I repeatedly find bits like "We're voting RAB, unless ___" and that condition always applied. It was mostly due to Yaxley winning immunity for them both or we decided to take a shot at someone else that round. I never had the feeling that RAB really developed the relationships during endgame that brought him to Finale. In the end it was mostly Yax who dragged him there (both unintentionally and intentionally). No answers I read thus far convinced me otherwise. I even remember RAB telling me during the Wood vote that he'd finally voted with the majoriry for once!? Like do we want to make RAB the winner, only because he's seeling his game better? I know it's far from over, yet, and I believe Yax will shine as soon as he arrives, but so far I still feel like Yax has played a slightly better game.
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