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Post by Lily Potter on May 30, 2022 11:38:30 GMT 10
Just on the misreads as well, are we generally in agreement that (sorry Lily) Yax would have been in a better place here against Lily (of course without the benefit of what I am sure would have been a stella FMC from her) than he is against Black? Lol I did tell both of them that the jury would hate me and thus they should take me to the end.
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Post by Oliver Wood on May 30, 2022 11:40:12 GMT 10
Just on the misreads as well, are we generally in agreement that (sorry Lily) Yax would have been in a better place here against Lily (of course without the benefit of what I am sure would have been a stella FMC from her) than he is against Black? That's an interesting question. I feel both Yaxley and Lily subtly steered things in their desired directions rather than explicitly stated what they wanted like you, Tonks and I did.
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Post by Nymphadora Tonks on May 30, 2022 11:50:47 GMT 10
I think Lily would’ve also gotten my vote. I was a bit disappointed with her actions from Fleur’s account, but I’m sure Lily Potter had a great answer lined up to make us understand some of her actions. At the end of the day, I knew you were the biggest threat from the very start of the merge and you STILL fell just short. You absolutely killed it!
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Post by Lily Potter on May 30, 2022 11:59:58 GMT 10
I think Lily would’ve also gotten my vote. I was a bit disappointed with her actions from Fleur’s account, but I’m sure Lily Potter had a great answer lined up to make us understand some of her actions. At the end of the day, I knew you were the biggest threat from the very start of the merge and you STILL fell just short. You absolutely killed it! Haha and likewise I thought you and HK were massive threats at the merge Tbh I’m surprised Yaxley hadn’t brought it up yet in his arguments. He was the one who told me that Wood had proposed that Yax/Diggs/HK/Tonks link up at the merge as a foursome (sorry if this isn’t true but also kudos to him if it was a complete lie). He pointed out that Wood had done a 180 since his DP days where he was hellbent on wanting HK gone at the Pyrites vote to now wanting to work with you guys. We talked about how that’s what made HK and Tonks so dangerous that they were able to flip Wood like that - that’s the kind of subtle strategic gameplay that Yaxley used in the game but isn’t owning up to in his answers
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Post by Oliver Wood on May 30, 2022 12:07:38 GMT 10
I think Lily would’ve also gotten my vote. I was a bit disappointed with her actions from Fleur’s account, but I’m sure Lily Potter had a great answer lined up to make us understand some of her actions. At the end of the day, I knew you were the biggest threat from the very start of the merge and you STILL fell just short. You absolutely killed it! Haha and likewise I thought you and HK were massive threats at the merge Tbh I’m surprised Yaxley hadn’t brought it up yet in his arguments. He was the one who told me that Wood had proposed that Yax/Diggs/HK/Tonks link up at the merge as a foursome (sorry if this isn’t true but also kudos to him if it was a complete lie). He pointed out that Wood had done a 180 since his DP days where he was hellbent on wanting HK gone at the Pyrites vote to now wanting to work with you guys. We talked about how that’s what made HK and Tonks so dangerous that they were able to flip Wood like that - that’s the kind of subtle strategic gameplay that Yaxley used in the game but isn’t owning up to in his answers Wood didn't do a 180. Wood suggested this partnership to Yaxley as Wood felt that Yaxley was the fifth wheel with Wood/Lucius/Lily/Crouch and could see the benefit of working with Diggle/Tonks/HK for Yaxley. Between Wood's and Lucius' relationships with Tonks and Wood's curiousity about working with HK, Wood kept the door ajar to that possibility. At the end of the day though, Wood raised Tonks and HK as threats before anyone raised them with Wood.
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 30, 2022 12:16:16 GMT 10
Well I think I am as decided as I am likely to be, although I am far from certain. Going to be a real interesting vote reveal I reckon. It seems like for a lot of us it could go either way. Looking forward to it.
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 30, 2022 12:53:22 GMT 10
Im just sad now.
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Post by Lily Potter on May 30, 2022 13:00:02 GMT 10
Sorry buddy I think your question (while admittedly was far the hardest) was the worst answered
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 30, 2022 13:07:07 GMT 10
I mean I get where Yax is coming from. It must suck to make ftc and then have someone dismiss literally everything and make a very emotionally charged request. Caring about the game should be a given, its part of the agreement of signing up and investing enough time to make jury. But feelings are feelings and I dont want to vote randomly so... *gestures vaguely*
My justification is that at least the vagueness/introspection of it is in character, and it was an invitation for them to show how well they *got* HK.
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 30, 2022 13:15:45 GMT 10
I mean I get where Yax is coming from. It must suck to make ftc and then have someone dismiss literally everything and make a very emotionally charged request. Caring about the game should be a given, its part of the agreement of signing up and investing enough time to make jury. But feelings are feelings and I dont want to vote randomly so... *gestures vaguely* My justification is that at least the vagueness/introspection of it is in character, and it was an invitation for them to show how well they *got* HK. It is a tough question but black ignoring tbt word count was a huge fail and they both still don’t get you. But that is the enigma you are. I don’t know if anyone here could answer your question to your satisfaction but I know that I seem to came through closest to ‘getting’ your character and I understand what you were generally looking for here. I sort of feel that some of your disconnect comes from the inherent ambiguity in your character and role play. You were essentially a Schrödinger’s cat of character. At all times all possibilities. That created a lot of fear for some and enjoyment for others. But none of them seems to understand that your goal was to somewhat experiment playing as an enigma in an ORG. I think that you hoped it would bring the game to some new level where people embraced the concept but their ultimate fear of it (mine included) just resulted in rejection of the concept. Why should you care? Because the idea had value and new concepts are almost always rejected on first blush. Why should you play again? Because it was a unique and interesting take and given we all invest so much time in games like this, it is always refreshing to see evolution.
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Post by Alastor 'Mad-Eye' Moody on May 30, 2022 13:17:01 GMT 10
Sorry buddy I think your question (while admittedly was far the hardest) was the worst answered I'm re-reading it trying to figure how I'd answer something like that, to be fair. Yax really went for the gut punch with the last response. I'd probably have picked one of your first couple questions as inspiration and made the whole Owl Post a campy narration of your story arc to prove your impact or something.
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 30, 2022 13:23:44 GMT 10
The thing is I pretty much gave up on the schtick a few days in because people weren't vibing and irl got busy. After that I just tried to be chill and reliable and funny and that still had people freaking out. It felt like any decision I made didnt matter, I was just a placeholder slot in the cast that just... got eliminated at some point.
Not for nothing I was also thrown on the backfoot off the bat by the idea of earning the ID reveal. Half of the reason I signed up was to play that new angle and that got removed.
Like, I signed up wanting to be this goofy weird character and see what a BvW game felt like, and I didn't get to do either. So what's left?
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 30, 2022 13:25:11 GMT 10
Sorry buddy I think your question (while admittedly was far the hardest) was the worst answered I'm re-reading it trying to figure how I'd answer something like that, to be fair. Yax really went for the gut punch with the last response. I'd probably have picked one of your first couple questions as inspiration and made the whole Owl Post a campy narration of your story arc to prove your impact or something. Thats pretty much what I was hoping for. Something fun or silly like that.
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Post by Nymphadora Tonks on May 30, 2022 13:28:53 GMT 10
The thing is I pretty much gave up on the schtick a few days in because people weren't vibing and irl got busy. After that I just tried to be chill and reliable and funny and that still had people freaking out. It felt like any decision I made didnt matter, I was just a placeholder slot in the cast that just... got eliminated at some point. Not for nothing I was also thrown on the backfoot off the bat by the idea of earning the ID reveal. Half of the reason I signed up was to play that new angle and that got removed. Like, I signed up wanting to be this goofy weird character and see what a BvW game felt like, and I didn't get to do either. So what's left? I’m still so so so annoyed we were only 3 points off. 3!!!! I was so looking forward to it as well ![:(](http://images.proboards.com/new/sad.png)
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 30, 2022 13:32:38 GMT 10
I’m still so so so annoyed we were only 3 points off. 3!!!! I was so looking forward to it as well ![:(](http://images.proboards.com/new/sad.png) I actually didn't mind because truthfully by the time we were actually at the merge (or even the swap tbh) I was pretty lukewarm at best about working with you. I figured there'd be a huge target on us given what I'd heard about your positioning within Order and it'd be better if you left and I went on as a single. And it would have been incredibly awkward if that had happened right after the ID reveal.
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Post by Alastor 'Mad-Eye' Moody on May 30, 2022 13:37:44 GMT 10
The thing is I pretty much gave up on the schtick a few days in because people weren't vibing and irl got busy. After that I just tried to be chill and reliable and funny and that still had people freaking out. It felt like any decision I made didnt matter, I was just a placeholder slot in the cast that just... got eliminated at some point. Not for nothing I was also thrown on the backfoot off the bat by the idea of earning the ID reveal. Half of the reason I signed up was to play that new angle and that got removed. Like, I signed up wanting to be this goofy weird character and see what a BvW game felt like, and I didn't get to do either. So what's left? Heh when I was looking at the DE rep options I remember pointing out HK specifically as one of the ones with the most fun rep potential. Otherwise I would have wanted to be the DE who gets a baby head from the time turning room in Order of the Phoenix. Goofy and weird is certainly what I was expecting, so it sucks people weren't vibing with that on your end of things to start.
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Post by Nymphadora Tonks on May 30, 2022 13:52:46 GMT 10
I’m still so so so annoyed we were only 3 points off. 3!!!! I was so looking forward to it as well ![:(](http://images.proboards.com/new/sad.png) I actually didn't mind because truthfully by the time we were actually at the merge (or even the swap tbh) I was pretty lukewarm at best about working with you. I figured there'd be a huge target on us given what I'd heard about your positioning within Order and it'd be better if you left and I went on as a single. And it would have been incredibly awkward if that had happened right after the ID reveal. That’s fair enough. I also thought you’d be seen as a major threat (Which you were seen as), and so my idea was to work with you but pretend to be on opposite sides. Of course, we were both killed before we could even think of what to do next. What did you hear about me though?
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Post by Hedwig's Killer on May 30, 2022 14:25:17 GMT 10
That’s fair enough. I also thought you’d be seen as a major threat (Which you were seen as), and so my idea was to work with you but pretend to be on opposite sides. Of course, we were both killed before we could even think of what to do next. What did you hear about me though? I mean I wasn't closed off to that either (if we were ever going to make it further together that would be the way) but I definitely assumed that it was going to come to a head very soon (little did I know). Basically that you were the core figure of all Order, with Fleur, Wood and Lily all loving you and everyone else not saying a bad thing about you.
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Post by Fleur Delacour on May 30, 2022 14:33:46 GMT 10
Black is hitting the right points with me and Yax is missing the mark and keeps saying things I don't agree with or are mis-reads. I mean he just said to you that HK had all the Manor wands, but I had Pyrites and Igors (and this is after he apparently made a detailed list of all the wands and stuff before the final challenge (which I expect he did do given how he dominated that challenge)). But he knows that's not true as HK sent Yax all HK's wands on HK's boot. For me it seems Black made 1 pivotal move at each phase of the game: Pre-Swap: The vote on me at the Traver's boot. Post-Swap: Making it look like we were after each other (which we absolutely were not). On that, Fleur Delacour , what did Black tell you when we got to the DoM about the Rudy boot. I ask as when we got to DoM, Black asked me what the hell happened with the vote and I explained that Igor had spilled all the beans and I knew about HK and Rudy's new group. I said I bore him no ill will for being a part of that group and asked if he wanted to go and each other a DoM or call a truce and try to survive together. He chose the latter and I told him he needed to help me by being upfront with Fleur about why I did what I did to Rudy. I said he could just as easily white-ant me on that but then I am likely gone so I asked him to tell her the truth. I didn't think this would make Fleur forgive me for what I did, but I needed her to know that what I told her about what I did was the truth. I assumed that Black told you the truth Fleur given I wasn't immediately booted? Post-Merge: Swapping the vote on me on the revote was absolutely the right move for him. Endgame: Seems like me played in perfectly from about 5 onwards? Zo I rémember thinking that 'e is really t rying tò make it seem like 'e is agáinst you which I think ultìmately 'elped you móre becàuse as I said éarlier, if it went tò a révote I most likely would 'ave switched; whéreas 'ad I known fór a fact that you a re still wórking tògether I would 'ave p robably wórked 'arder in t rying tò make sûre you leave ![:P](http://images.proboards.com/new/tongue.png) It's kìnd of fúnny becàuse I did p robably 'ave a gut reaction that made me vote you at fi rst just in càse you 3 wére voting tògethér agáinst me or Tonks, and if I did that would 'ave been based on something I pìcked up fróm 'im as well, bût I don't want tò ovér emphasize the importance of my original vote becàuse ultìmately 'e did manáge tò tàlk me off fróm targéting you as stróngly as I othérwise would 'ave
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Post by Lucius Malfoy on May 30, 2022 14:43:32 GMT 10
Black is hitting the right points with me and Yax is missing the mark and keeps saying things I don't agree with or are mis-reads. I mean he just said to you that HK had all the Manor wands, but I had Pyrites and Igors (and this is after he apparently made a detailed list of all the wands and stuff before the final challenge (which I expect he did do given how he dominated that challenge)). But he knows that's not true as HK sent Yax all HK's wands on HK's boot. For me it seems Black made 1 pivotal move at each phase of the game: Pre-Swap: The vote on me at the Traver's boot. Post-Swap: Making it look like we were after each other (which we absolutely were not). On that, Fleur Delacour , what did Black tell you when we got to the DoM about the Rudy boot. I ask as when we got to DoM, Black asked me what the hell happened with the vote and I explained that Igor had spilled all the beans and I knew about HK and Rudy's new group. I said I bore him no ill will for being a part of that group and asked if he wanted to go and each other a DoM or call a truce and try to survive together. He chose the latter and I told him he needed to help me by being upfront with Fleur about why I did what I did to Rudy. I said he could just as easily white-ant me on that but then I am likely gone so I asked him to tell her the truth. I didn't think this would make Fleur forgive me for what I did, but I needed her to know that what I told her about what I did was the truth. I assumed that Black told you the truth Fleur given I wasn't immediately booted? Post-Merge: Swapping the vote on me on the revote was absolutely the right move for him. Endgame: Seems like me played in perfectly from about 5 onwards? Zo I rémember thinking that 'e is really t rying tò make it seem like 'e is agáinst you which I think ultìmately 'elped you móre becàuse as I said éarlier, if it went tò a révote I most likely would 'ave switched; whéreas 'ad I known fór a fact that you a re still wórking tògether I would 'ave p robably wórked 'arder in t rying tò make sûre you leave ![:P](http://images.proboards.com/new/tongue.png) It's kìnd of fúnny becàuse I did p robably 'ave a gut reaction that made me vote you at fi rst just in càse you 3 wére voting tògethér agáinst me or Tonks, and if I did that would 'ave been based on something I pìcked up fróm 'im as well, bût I don't want tò ovér emphasize the importance of my original vote becàuse ultìmately 'e did manáge tò tàlk me off fróm targéting you as stróngly as I othérwise would 'ave Thanks it really did seem like Black played the DOM perfectly especially as it’s not like he and I had an agreement to secretly work with each other. We just had a sort of truce and we’re doing our own thing. I feel like his subtle efforts were perfect moves for the whole game with it seemingly like only rounds 6 and 7 being those he was actually in trouble? I’m not going to write him off because yax won him immunity there, especially with the switch and flicks in play.
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